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Theoretical questions >> Sequence Analysis >> reversibility violation http://www.hyphy.org/cgi-bin/hyphy_forums/YaBB.pl?num=1183999800 Message started by jxn on Jul 9th, 2007 at 9:50am |
Title: reversibility violation Post by jxn on Jul 9th, 2007 at 9:50am
I want to generate some DNA sequence data violated reversibility assumtion. Do you know what program can do that? Thanks.
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Title: Re: reversibility violation Post by Sergei on Jul 9th, 2007 at 10:22am
Dear jxn,
HyPhy can do this fairly easily : you would need to define a non-reversible substitution model and then use Simulate to generate some data under that model. Were you looking to simulate nucleotide data? Cheers, Sergei |
Title: Re: reversibility violation Post by jxn on Jul 16th, 2007 at 10:10am
Hi, Sergei
I want to simulate nucleotide data. Would you please show me the relevant command or/and example that I can start from? thanks a lot. JXN |
Title: Re: reversibility violation Post by Sergei on Jul 19th, 2007 at 4:16pm
Dear jxn,
How do you wish to specify the input? A tree with branch lengths and a number of sites as well as substitution rates? Cheers, Sergei |
Title: Re: reversibility violation Post by jxn on Jul 30th, 2007 at 6:14am
Hi, Sergei
I want to input a tree with branch length, number of the sites. As well as the base frequence and the asymmetric relative rate matrix for the non-reversible substitution model. Thanks a lot. jxn |
Title: Re: reversibility violation Post by Sergei on Jul 30th, 2007 at 10:48am
Dear jxn,
Do you want the frequencies to be at equilibrium or not? If not, then branch lengths (in the traditional sense) are harder to compute... Cheers, Sergei |
Title: Re: reversibility violation Post by jxn on Aug 1st, 2007 at 10:30am
Hi, Sergei
I want the frequencies at equilibrium, so the stationary assumption holds. why do I need to compute the branch lengths? I only need the data simulated under a model which the reversibility doesn't hold. Thanks. jxn |
Title: Re: reversibility violation Post by Sergei on Aug 1st, 2007 at 3:21pm
Dear jxn,
OK; stationarity makes things easier, but you have 3 constraints on 12 rate parameters to make sure that f_A, f_C, f_G and f_T you stipulate are the stationary distribution. One needs to convert branch lengths (expected subs/site) into model parameters to simulate the data. I'll put something together tonight. Cheers, Sergei |
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