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Yanhong Li
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Apr 22nd, 2005 at 10:08am
 
Hi, thanks for your simple software first.

Can you give a clue about some questions:

1. Is there the limitation about sequence numbers and characteristics when i want to use REL to analysis the positive site? Why sometimes i found that all the amino acid substitutions were positive sites after analysised by REL?

2. How can i know the cited times of using REL to analysis the positive sites?

Many thanks,

Yan

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Reply #1 - Apr 22nd, 2005 at 11:03am
 
Dear Yan,

1. In our experience, and depending on the amount of divergence, using REL on less than ten sequences can give some surprising results, to say the least, and having some closely related sequences with a few highly divergent sequences also appears to give misleading results. You may want to look into the estimates of the rate parameters that you get using REL; for small datasets, they will be subject to large estimation errors. In the 'Getting started' PDF that is included in the HyPhy distribution, there is a description of how you can get estimates of parameter error. If your dN/dS class is not significantly different from 1, then one cannot conclude with confidence that positive selection is present, even though the point estimate of dN/dS is greater than 1.

2. If you are looking for applications of REL in addition to those described in our paper 'Not so different...', we used it in our paper 'A Simple Hierarchical Approach to Modeling Distributions of Substitution Rates', linked to from Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to Login Login . It was also used in a forthcoming paper in Virology by Pillai et al. comparing dN/dS and volatility as measures of selection in HIV.

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Simon
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Yan
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Reply #2 - Apr 25th, 2005 at 7:47am
 
Dear Simon,

Thank you very much for your information, but i still have something unclear.

Can you tell me what's the difference between HYPHY Athlon, HYPHY AthlonXP, HYPHY-P3 and HYPHY-P4 in the HYPHY package?  Which one should i use if i want to determine the positive sites?

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Yan
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Reply #3 - Apr 25th, 2005 at 10:16pm
 
Dear Yan,

All of the executables will give you exactly the same results; the difference between them is that they are compiled for different processors. For example, if you have a computer with a Pentium 4 processor, then using HYPHY-P4 will be faster, as it is compiled with optimizations specific for that processor, even though all of the programs run under Windows.

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